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Author Topic: Where are all the "Freestyle Hexacopters"?  (Read 261 times)

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Where are all the "Freestyle Hexacopters"?
« on: December 25, 2018, 22:54:07 »
Yesterday I noticed that Realacc seem to have dropped the 5" 275mm "Sphinx" hex frame that I really like. Even with the 1806 motors I made fit mine (For longer flight duration on smaller/lighter lipo packs) it's got enough grunt to be really fun, and it's SOOOOO relaxing to fly. It doesn't get buffeted about by light wind like my smaller quads do, and although not describable as "Quick", it's got enough in reserve to get me out of trouble on those rare occasions when I manage to react with fingers rather than having to think what my digits need to do first.  :smiley: . I'm sure that if I'd fitted 2205's to this it would have been a monster...... And quicker than my reactions could cope with.  :-/

Considering the consensus was that the Sphinxes arms were probably pretty weak I must have been quite lucky not to break mine yet, But now I can't even easily get a full replacment frame for parts I've become sufficiently worried about breaking it that I've started looking for a backup plan in case the worst happens...... That's where the problems start.

There seems to to be very few companies making anything like this frame. Nothing close to the style or price bracket on BangGood, And AliExpress only list an interesting 3"
(An RD180. Sufficiently interesting that I may try to get hold of one for a future build) or a rather heavy and chunky looking 5" (RD290). I can't seem to find anything similar listed on any of the other usual suspects either.

I've never had a hex that didn't fly well, And the two more freestyle orientated hex frames I've had have been pretty agile but also feel very solidly "locked in", even in less than ideal wind conditions they've been predictable in flight, so I'm surprised there aren't more freestyle/racer hex frames out there........ Or are there, And I just haven't found them?

Anyone got suggestions for other 5" freestyle hex's I've missed (And possibly a sexy 3" hex I might like better than the RD180.  :embarrassed)?


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Re: Where are all the "Freestyle Hexacopters"?
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2018, 08:40:30 »
Could be an interesting thread here.

Personally, with loads of Quads from 65mm to 450mm, many assembled by me, I have never owned a Hex.  Only ever flown one once, too, and that was a "toy" which told me not a lot (the buyer could not fly it at all well, so asked me to try, it flew OK, so it was him!!).

Other than the pretty obvious "advantage" of redundancy and possibly greater stability with large load carriers/camera luggers, for freestyle they just seem to add complexity where its not needed, but always ready to listen.

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Re: Where are all the "Freestyle Hexacopters"?
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2018, 10:01:59 »
my mate used to run the TBS GEMINI that was a fun freestyler hex  :cool:
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Re: Where are all the "Freestyle Hexacopters"?
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2018, 11:56:58 »
Mixed opinions on RCG about it.

I think the bottom line is this:-

We are not talking large load lugger, but light agile freestyle flying. So what does a Hex offer that makes it worth the increased weight, current consumption, two extra motors, ESCs, and frame arms?

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Re: Where are all the "Freestyle Hexacopters"?
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2018, 16:29:46 »
Draw it up in CAD and have it cut in Carbon .....

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Re: Where are all the "Freestyle Hexacopters"?
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2018, 21:57:04 »
Can anyone help i am new to the quad show i have the crappy dji that fly themselves but i have bought a mobula 7 to fly with my DX6I can anyone give me a CLI setup to work with my Mobula 7 on dx spektrum please i can bind it just cant get the damn thing to fly pfffff
 

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Re: Where are all the "Freestyle Hexacopters"?
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2018, 22:01:34 »
Can anyone help i am new to the quad show i have the crappy dji that fly themselves but i have bought a mobula 7 to fly with my DX6I can anyone give me a CLI setup to work with my Mobula 7 on dx spektrum please i can bind it just cant get the damn thing to fly pfffff
Best to post a new thread with Mobula7 & dx spectrum in title.
Have you managed to bind the rx to your tx? When connected to Betaflight have you set rx to correct one? The instructions for the FlySky rx on the Mobula7 are good did yours come with a manual for the spectrum dmsx rx?
Just had a quick look and this might help: http://www.happymodel.cn/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Crazybee-F3DX-PRO-DSM2-DSMX-Version-manual.pdf
« Last Edit: December 26, 2018, 22:05:02 by ched999uk »

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Re: Where are all the "Freestyle Hexacopters"?
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2018, 22:28:18 »
I found quite a few hex frames in my wanderings.
Need to find them again give me a few days.

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Re: Where are all the "Freestyle Hexacopters"?
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2018, 22:31:01 »
Have a look on Armattan productions ... I'm sure somebody will have come up with a few!

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Re: Where are all the "Freestyle Hexacopters"?
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2018, 10:03:45 »
« Last Edit: December 27, 2018, 10:09:50 by atomiclama »
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Re: Where are all the "Freestyle Hexacopters"?
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2018, 10:52:33 »
Well, it seems that just after I started this thread banggood found a pair of the Sphinx 275 mm kits down the back of a workbench or something.

I've just ordered one of them as spares, but I think before using any of it I'm going to lay all the carbon parts out on my scanner (With a couple of rulers for scale) and look into the possibility of someone with a CNC router making a handful of slightly wider 5 mm carbon arms for the frame.

Mine's an absolute cherry of a flyer, and Realacc's disinterest in selling spare arms for it is almost a criminal oversite, so if they don't want to sell any upgraded arms for this maybe somebody else should.

It could even be an option to tweak the dimensions and (If I can find a 20x20mm flight controller with 6 motor outputs) get the parts for a 3 inch version cut at the same time.   :hmm:
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Re: Where are all the "Freestyle Hexacopters"?
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2019, 16:37:51 »
There are still a few options out there but not many. Its a configuration that never really caught on in the racing and freestyle worlds.
Its fairly popular in agriculture and there are even a few X-Class racers about.

The proper 'big boys' (Camera crews) tend to use octo's for their lifting ability, stability & redundancy and the speed freaks (racers/freestylers) use light little quads. Hex's are left somewhere in the middle and don't get much love :cry

I like the smaller racing/freestyle hex's for their 'cool factor' and the fact they are a bit different, they also sound awesome :smiley:

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Re: Where are all the "Freestyle Hexacopters"?
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2019, 19:50:08 »
they also sound awesome :smiley:

I can vouch for that, 6S hex sounds  :evil
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Re: Where are all the "Freestyle Hexacopters"?
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2019, 22:51:45 »
So what does a Hex offer that makes it worth the increased weight, current consumption, two extra motors, ESCs, and frame arms?

I'm not really sure. It's a different kind of flying. I like my hexs because to me they've tended to feel a little more stable, And LOT more predictable, But they can still boogy reasonably well when I start flapping the sticks.

I'm not a quick pilot, And I don't get enough stick time to constantly fly by instinct (As in, I sometimes have to slow down and think about stick movements when I REALLY get into trouble rather than just reacting), So I sometimes like flying something that doesn't try to bury itself 6" into the ground the moment things go slightly wrong. I find 230/250mm quads on 2205 motors to be a tad "Frantic" in the air (A bit like a house fly), They're fun in the same way that chucking a sports car sideways down a twisty country lane at silly speeds can be fun, But the slightly heavier hex's are (For want of a better word) a more "Floaty" and relaxing thing to fly. I suppose that's like how lazily driving through the countryside, Apexing every corner, But not really pushing it that hard can be fun.
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