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Oooo bugger. Mud in my motors

Started by JonC, Friday,March 14, 2014, 14:35:45

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JonC

 :cry

Managed to pull off a quiet spectacular crash this afternoon, luckily the ground turned out to be very thick stinking mud, saved the quad but the motors have mud in them. Any advice on mud removal? Should I let it dry and blow out with an air line, or strip and wash out with deionise water, followed by a bit of oil?  Only other causality was a prop.

Cheers

JC

barneyg

So far I';ve just flushed them out under the tap and then dried them with a hair drier.

JonC

Quote from: barneyg on Friday,March 14, 2014, 14:39:10
So far I';ve just flushed them out under the tap and then dried them with a hair drier.


Music to my ears, will give it a clean later

barneyg

wait for some other comments ... who knows what unknown damage I';ve been doing :)  That said I';ve not noticed any problems.  I put a little 3 in 1 oil on the bearings afterwards.

If you do try it watch you don';t let the motor get too hot under the drier

Ross



:hmm:
3-in-One supposed to be the watchmakers best friend!  (In that it eventually clogs up things)!!
Let's be careful out there.
SAFETY is.. NO accident.

nub

strip them down, wash them and oil the bearings.
Point and click.

Monkey see, Monkey do.

Hands0n

Quote from: barneyg on Friday,March 14, 2014, 14:39:10
So far I';ve just flushed them out under the tap and then dried them with a hair drier.

Mine spent 2-1/2 days in the hissing rain in a field in Kent and were no worse for wear. I didn';t even flush them out, the rain did that ::) Just fitted to replacement rotor arms and flew the bu99er.  Good old SunnySky motors.  Awesomeness at 980KV
--
Danny
"Its better than bad, its good"

Current FCs: Pixhawk, APM 2.6, Naza M V2, Naze32, Flip32+ CC3D, KK2.1.5
Aircraft: miniMax Hex, DJI 550 (clone) TBS Disco, 450 Firefly, 250 Pro, ZMR250, Hubsan X4, Bixler 2

barneyg

Quote from: Ross on Friday,March 14, 2014, 15:11:25

:hmm:
3-in-One supposed to be the watchmakers best friend!  (In that it eventually clogs up things)!!

Just don';t use wd40  :popcorn:

Doug

Quote from: barneyg on Friday,March 14, 2014, 15:52:45
Just don';t use wd40  :popcorn:

There is a product on the market called TriFlow which is a Teflon based lubricant excellent for bearings of all kinds and you can get it in an aerosol can if you so wish.

look here and then search for a supplier

http://www.triflowlubricants.com/

nub

i wouldn';t use wd40 maself but each their own.
Point and click.

Monkey see, Monkey do.

guest325


JonC

Quote from: DarrellW on Friday,March 14, 2014, 16:11:22
Very good advice - wd40 is penetrating oil not a lubricant; this is what I always use: http://m.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-ptfe-spray-lubricant-400ml/80487

What lube was going to be my next question.


barneyg

PTFE is good ...  My bike chain oil has PTFE in but it is too thick for this applicationm and I';ve got a dry spray ptfe can but it doesn';t have a fine nozzle so that was out too.

Just remembered I';ve got a fine applicator tube of Tuf-Glide and a Tuf-Glide impregnated cloth in the bathroom ... I wonder if that would be any good for this purpose

Biffa

I never use oil it just gets clogged up with dust n stuff, I use Silicone or PTFE ~~
Steve

Chami82923

I did the same, buried one of my motors about 15cm in to the ground after a prop failure, just rinsed it through with warm water, dried it off on the radiator for a couple of days, connected it up and ran it for a couple if minutes then blew some compressed air to get any remaining debris out, then oiled the bearings with a ptfe based lubricant (GT85), now I couldn';t tell you which motor it was, as they all run fine.

Callum
LF 330 with naza & GPS,
Hubsan X4 & Q4
Mini H-quad with naza m lite.
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guest325

The rctimer motors on  my bitza sound b awful but they run as smooth as silk, all down to generous application of ptfe spray - BUT make sure that it';s dry before you run them!

robshaw

+1 Silicone or PTFE.

I remember the days of model car racing and in the stock/standard heats there was a restriction on only using standard 540 motors which couldn';t be taken apart. To clean them and to get more oomph out of them we used to hook them up to an old nicad and dunk them in a bucket of water doing full rpm. Seems nuts when you think about it but it worked a treat. The amount of crap that you got out of it turned the bucket of water black.

I still have the commutator drops I used post dunk and use this on my multi motors. Not actually sure what';s in it but it';s a very thin oil with a needle nozzle for precise application. 
Tunrnigy Talon Tri, TBS Discovery, TBS Discovery PRO, Spnky 250 Mini, EZUHF, EZOSD

Flyinegypt

Must get some of that PTFE spray next time I';m in the UK.
About a month ago I had a bit of sideways drift when landing and tipped over burying 2 motors in soft sand :o
I took the quad home and blew the motors out with compressed air then gingerly turned them to check for grit. Phew! they were ok and have made a good few flights since then.
I really do not want to oil the bearings if I can avoid it to prevent grit or fesh-fesh getting stuck inside. A dry lubricant like PTFE seems perfect for my needs.

dyls

Another +1 to silicone or PTFE sprays.
I spray it all over my bearings with lots of it going inside the motor, I do this often as routine maintenance.

:beer2:
Stay safe
Dyl

ZMR250+Naze-acro,Turnigy 9x, (FPV) Phil built (FLYAWAY)
550      +APM         ,    "-"       ,   "-"   Peter built
X525(Cut to 400)+KK2+Futaba 6EX (Crashed)

tony

how oftern i never spay my bearings as there closed case bearings so what stuff do you use how oftern do you use it and where can i get some from

Biffa

You can get GT85 in Tesco. Silicone spray is readily available on Ebay.
Steve

teslahed



Search ebay for "silicone spray" - £5  ~~
One circlip short of a quadcopter.
 1 lobe short of an antenna.

guest325

I tend to shy away from silicone spray, it';s main claim to fame is its water dispersing properties but as a lubricant it is better suited to large surfaces, whereas ptfe spray is good regardless of surface area.

Hands0n

This is bl**dy ridiculous!  :o  I';m knocking on 60 years old ... and still I can';t see the word "lubricant" without at least a mental snigger or an out lout chortle!   :rofl:

I don';t use any lubricant (oh FFS here I go again!) but if I did then it would be PFTE for exactly as Darrell says.   The thing is, my motors, so far, I';ve not had to, even the SunnySky that have bathed in several days of Kent rain. ::)
--
Danny
"Its better than bad, its good"

Current FCs: Pixhawk, APM 2.6, Naza M V2, Naze32, Flip32+ CC3D, KK2.1.5
Aircraft: miniMax Hex, DJI 550 (clone) TBS Disco, 450 Firefly, 250 Pro, ZMR250, Hubsan X4, Bixler 2

guest325

There is reasoning why I use the ptfe, I don';t use it to lubricate the bearings, my main reason for using it is for the internal faces that are running closely together,  if for any reason there is any contract it shouldn';t cause a major problem immediately; it';s more prevention rather than cure.
Sealed bearings do not need any lubrication, none can get into them anyway so a bit pointless doing it for that reason.

Biffa

Quote from: Hands0n on Saturday,March 15, 2014, 09:36:39
This is bl**dy ridiculous!  :o  I';m knocking on 60 years old ... and still I can';t see the word "lubricant" without at least a mental snigger or an out lout chortle!   :rofl:

:slap: :laugh:
Steve