Moving from Baseflight to Cleanflight

[neilma]

Hi folks

I have been running my Acro Naze32 for quite a while on baseflight with no issues. However I fancy trying cleanflight.

Are there any gotchas I should be aware of? Is it just a case of installing it, then setting it up (I was getting confused looking at a recent thread talking about Cleanflight and SBUS (I use the FrSky D4r-ii receiver). I assume I could take some screenshots from Baseflight before converting as some of the settings will be the same/similar?

Cheers

[quadfather]

A few of CLI variables have changed, and the configurator is now a fair bit different to baseflight.  Have a look at this Wiki article https://github.com/cleanflight/cleanflight/blob/master/docs/Migrating%20from%20baseflight.md

For SBUS you';ll still need an inverter as the Naze doesn';t have one built in.

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[neilma]

Thanks Quadfather :)

One question - I am confused by your Sbus comment - I am using the D4R using Sbus on the Naze currently - So are you saying if I move to cleanflight I need an invertor ? Or am I reading it that I should already have one 

[neilma]

Aha - I was getting confused - The D4R uses CPPM not SBUS so I assume I am ok (without the inverter)

[Fletch]

Yes you are ... straight onto Pin 1 as it is in baseflight

[flybywire]

Personally, if you';re ok with baseflight, i';d stick with it, or at least back up all your settings to txt file first.  These boards can be capricious in nature, when working solidly, it';s best not to break them!

[chester]

I tried cleanflight and never could get my quad flying as locked in. Ended up going back to Baseflight and leaving well alone. My flying Pal seems to be having the same experience. However loads seem to be very happy with cleanflight.

Just as Flybywire says really

[peter82]

Im using cleanflight at the minute on my 250 quad, and am having strange yaw issues, where it turns by itself, if i give a tiny amount of left rudder and let go it moves as expected but then randomy rotate approx 90degrees on its own. Tried alsorts to fix it but to no avail. Also tried another naze board and its the same. So i might go to baseflight and see if that fixes it.

[flybywire]

Thanks for the info chester, i';m in a awkward place atm with my naze acro and flip 32+, as neither have actually flown with any firmware, although they started life with Baseflight.  In my quest to get a lemon & spektrum satellite rx to work, i ended up flashing them with cleanflight, and all apears to be ok, at least so far as i get things moving as they should.

I';ll let you know how they work when i get my frames cut after Easter hols. Other folk have success with cleanflight, so i won';t right it off yet!

Andy

[Hands0n]

Fundamentally CF and BF are from the same stable. CF has some enhancements that might appeal. But in use they are largely identical.

Where performance differs will relate to things like the large choice of PID Controller choice in CF. You cannot simply copy BF PID into CF and expect it to work the same. It won';t.

I use both fiemwares in similar quads and can vouch for both. I tend to lean more toward CF these days, particularly when starting a new build.

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[teslahed]

Where performance differs will relate to things like the large choice of PID Controller choice in CF. You cannot simply copy BF PID into CF and expect it to work the same. It won';t.

I am pretty sure it does but only if you select the right PID controller. Some of the PID controllers in cleanflight are the same as some in baseflight but cleanflight has more and the default isn';t the same.

I';m on PID controller 1 because it';s similar to the old multiwii default i';m used to with a few enhancements like no need for TPA and smoother at full power when flying with high KV motors and overpowered miniquads. It also separates the PIDs from the Rates so that when you up the PIDs it doesn';t affect the speed of rotation and require you to retune all your rates to get the same feel.

I prefer cleanflight. Mostly it';s a ';cultural'; thing. Dominic Clifton has done such a good job of getting others involved with the development process by not being a prima donna that i expect to see it progress faster than baseflight has been the last few years. timecop has burned more than a few bridges in places where he didn';t like what certain developers were trying to do, whereas Mr Clifton appears to want as much help as he can possibly get (timecop would say something mean at this point - lol).

The addressable LEDs are a nice feature and cleanflight also got oneshot working first at a time when timecop was saying it wasn';t worth bothering with. He was wrong.

[Ynot6]

i';m still tinkering with my hammer 250 (actually 240). i';ve just started to set up the FC. i';ve gone for a flip 32 full. this evening, with the help of a youtube vid from "painless 360" i flashed it to cleanflight, and rotated the yaw so that the micro USB socket is on one side. as a total non geek, i was seriously not looking forward to doing any of it. but it was quite easy, thanks to the vid from someone far more able, and confident than myself. the change was mostly to get "auto tune", as i';ve no idea how to go about "PIDs". naza and vector just have "gain" which takes care of all of it at the same time.

[annikk.exe]

CleanFlight all the way.  Dominic Clifton is the man.  British firmware ftw!!

PID 1 (Multiwii rewrite) is my favourite also.  It';s extremely easy to tune on.  TPA does nothing though, that caught me out at first... set it to max and it seemed no different, lol. :>

[atomiclama]

TPA does nothing though

Keep your eye on updates. There is a pull request waiting that has TPA for PIDC 1 and 2  ::)

Going to test it out once I get some time